tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4446256822558811250.post6996774359802957679..comments2023-08-05T02:10:34.105-07:00Comments on Hunting for Archetypes: Zeta masculinity...what a concept?Factoryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07339614725666249518noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4446256822558811250.post-74111810607624486752013-03-10T12:18:09.910-07:002013-03-10T12:18:09.910-07:00Bob, the dismissal of the concepts of Game and the...Bob, the dismissal of the concepts of Game and the Manosphere is plainly obvious. What isn't is the rationale behind your proclamations. For instance, I have never seen anyone declare Chivalry is about getting laid (far from it, usually that's the accusation levelled at Game)...what I HAVE seen is the accusation that Chivalry as advocated today is Gynocentric. Hell, I've made that accusation. But 'Chivalry' (as in the teacher trying to indoctrinate his students in...Colorado I think it is?...into the whole pulling out of chairs and opening doors variety) is more the purview of the more sexless among us. I know a guy who actually thinks the way to a woman's heart is to quote Orwell and Kafka, and read poetry to her.<br /><br />Of course, this will work on some of the women some of the time...if you're not also a balding socially awkward old guy chasing 20 year old tail. So circumstances alter outcomes...to some extent.<br /><br />Simple fact...not any one aspect of the Manosphere has it 'right'...not even the Traditionalists.Factoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339614725666249518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4446256822558811250.post-73496357668293070412013-03-10T11:05:14.931-07:002013-03-10T11:05:14.931-07:00In the original definition of chivalry a man didn&...In the original definition of chivalry a man didn't alter his behavior to merely get laid. That is something that Roissy and Roosh and the rest of those frauds will never understand: women are running their lives since they've changed themselves to suit women. And as for "Game," the idea that men in the psst didn't understand what is is, is again a sign of the ignorance and lack of education among what I call the Lost Boys of the Manosphere.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16046202647270439670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4446256822558811250.post-23377453839407418672013-03-10T10:11:39.654-07:002013-03-10T10:11:39.654-07:00The point of these philosophies is not to limit th...The point of these philosophies is not to limit the choices available to men, but to expand them. Sure, it could be argued that Chivalry fits in these spaces, but then again so does a Game oriented lifestyle.<br /><br />Which is, of course, the point.<br /><br />Everyone seems to have their own personal little model of what men 'should' live like, the idea here is to 'define masculinity' in a way that expands personal potential without infringing on the lives of others, and also without encouraging a nihilistic hedonism.<br /><br />It's a thin road to walk on, and I think James did an outstanding job here, myself.Factoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339614725666249518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4446256822558811250.post-86005239416794276452013-03-10T08:32:43.745-07:002013-03-10T08:32:43.745-07:00All of these qualities fit into the traditional co...All of these qualities fit into the traditional concepts of chivalry, which many in the Manosphere misunderstand since they think it means mangina when it really means the exact opposite. The idea that thinkers in the past have not figured these things out is a sign of the cluelessness of many guys in the Manosphere.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16046202647270439670noreply@blogger.com