tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4446256822558811250.post784205226465339904..comments2023-08-05T02:10:34.105-07:00Comments on Hunting for Archetypes: Facets.Factoryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07339614725666249518noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4446256822558811250.post-31534324337977046612010-07-19T10:39:10.599-07:002010-07-19T10:39:10.599-07:00Excellent. If you have any archived articles or p...Excellent. If you have any archived articles or posts you really like, you should forward them on.<br /><br />:)Factoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339614725666249518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4446256822558811250.post-64048957679603470312010-07-09T18:51:28.554-07:002010-07-09T18:51:28.554-07:00Hello Factory,
I'm OLD school. USENET. Sinc...Hello Factory,<br /><br />I'm OLD school. USENET. Since 1991. Back in the days when they didn't have "internet". I don't just mean "web", I mean ARPANET. <br /><br />Sadly, USENET is dying off although a LOT of great ideas were refined there including C4M (choice for men). <br /><br />I have commented at glennsacks.com (before he shut it off altogether) and mensnewsdaily although the owner thought I was a bit too radical for him. I need to start my own blog. In the meantime, thanks for the invite!PolishKnighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16740194441387995674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4446256822558811250.post-14834069007990430352010-07-09T15:16:58.956-07:002010-07-09T15:16:58.956-07:00Which brings me to a question I want to ask you......Which brings me to a question I want to ask you...<br /><br />You're familiar with MRm! magazine? Well, I'm changing it to make it less MRM specific, with more of a mainstream appeal. The subject matter doesn't change much, just the style of writing...<br /><br />It would be cool if you would contribute a couple articles...<br /><br />You wouldn't happen to have a blog or anything would you?Factoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339614725666249518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4446256822558811250.post-44797523268682077422010-07-09T12:09:23.312-07:002010-07-09T12:09:23.312-07:00I hate "let's meet in the middle" mo...I hate "let's meet in the middle" moderate positions because not only are they wuss outs of confronting the issues, they also undermine the notion that there _are_ issues to deal with.<br /><br />So put in that context, let's see where we are now: Feminism, and even women's "equality", has not created a utopian society allowing freedom from gender roles. Just the opposite: It's taken on the worst excesses of male chauvanism and not just as a "get even" tactic. "Get even" would mean the women going down with modern day Titanics while us men sat in the comfy lifeboats. It would mean women going to war while us men stayed behind. That's not happening, is it?<br /><br />Let's try this. We can all agree that we need a "seneca falls" direction agenda. Even though feminists came from different backgrounds 150 years ago: Some hated men, some were lesbians, some just wanted to make men stop drinking at pubs, etc. they could all agree on a general direction. They also didn't leave anything OFF of the table. <br /><br />Our senaca falls means going back to THEIR senaca falls and asking: How much of their agenda we should scrap or keep AND provide a very good reason for it. <br /><br />One reason the men's movement has been slow to grow is that feminism and women's rights, like socialism, promised lots of good stuff. Freedom from gender roles for men. "Free love". It seems silly now but back then, men were walking around with purses. Today, we see that feminism is merely a goodie grab. We can try to spend the next thousand years or so asking women: "Could you be fair and have all women live up to the same responsibilities as a group that men do as a group and not weasle out?" but that's kind of like trying to get your money back from the movies after paying for a rotten film.<br /><br />One of the main problems MRA's have to deal with, aside from our own love for feminist/equality principles and how pretty they look, is the love of chivalry as well. Feminism is just a form of hyperchivalry (women are to be protected even from their own protection.) Getting past that requires women to be SOOOO bad and dirty that it's impossible for men to idealize them anymore as innocent, noble maidens to be protected and given equality without condition.<br /><br />OK, after we've established that women don't deserve unconditional chivalry OR equality without Responsibilities (with a capital R), how to move forward? Easy, cut them off bit by bit. Just as women figured out how to manipulate soft men with sex, we can use the thing we have (no, not THAT!) but our MONEY and ABILITIES! Don't marry feminists! Don't allow a woman to enjoy breadwinner protection while at the same time bashing their mates in the voting booth! Tell feminists you'll respect their ideology when their sisters they want rights for ALL live up to them just as ALL men have to live up to OUR responsibilities.<br /><br />What's interesting is that a lot of women are cool with that since they are rather sick of the "world owes me a living" attitude they have to deal with too. They have women friends who forget to pick up the tab and say: "Tee hee! I'm SPECIAL! Deal with it! You're so insentitive to not care about pleasing ME!"PolishKnighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16740194441387995674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4446256822558811250.post-45850527334337957392010-07-05T07:42:45.606-07:002010-07-05T07:42:45.606-07:00I think taking almost anything to extremes is unhe...I think taking almost anything to extremes is unhealthy, but in some cases it's still healthier than keeping your mouth shut. <br /><br />Mind you, as long as Society continues to ignore and belittle men, men can't help but get more and more angry...Factoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339614725666249518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4446256822558811250.post-28659045162951544312010-07-02T16:05:20.195-07:002010-07-02T16:05:20.195-07:00About radical MRAs balancing out the extremity of ...About radical MRAs balancing out the extremity of feminism, that resonates too. Didn't warren farell say the same?<br /><br />In an interview he said something like... Even though it would be great to jump directly to an evolved men movement... There is going to be a need for a men's movement first. One that's shouting and trying to get a point across.<br /><br />I'm paraphrasing (a lot) but he basically he agreed with your point. There is a need for a strong, almost dramatic MRA movement first, before we reach a the final, mature movement. Simply because men's voices aren't heard. And there has to be a phase of men being loud and almost as bad as the feminists. (unfortunately)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4446256822558811250.post-43687755325169563742010-07-02T16:00:20.660-07:002010-07-02T16:00:20.660-07:00I agree with the "in the middle lies the trut...I agree with the "in the middle lies the truth" thinking as this is what I like to point out as well. I've been both a PUA and a MGTOW.<br /><br />A man, is in my mind, in between the two. They're both idiotic extremes. I've been in both...<br /><br />And they're both based on deluding yourself despite evidence, and wanting to believe that something unhealthy is "enlightened".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com